Ed Roth IRA conversions and talks about the second slot to die life insurance
Ed Roth IRA conversions speaking slot on the second to die life insurance
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“U. S. experts of the IRA, “Ed Slott joins Jim Lange, JD / CPA to cover the Roth IRA and the second to die life insurance
The country’s most acclaimed IRA expert Ed Slott, describes the benefits of the Roth IRA, Roth IRA conversions and the second to die life insurance through a collection of entertaining stories and real to investors eager.
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Bershok Beth: We’re talking money intelligently today, wow, this is a show full of information. Thank you very much for joining us. I am Beth Bershok and now has not one but two nationally recognized experts. First, of course, Jim Lange. Jim is an accountant, lawyer, wrote the best-selling secure retirement, pay taxes later and, indeed, the second edition of the book came out last month and one week after its release, Jim, was a number one bestseller in several categories on Amazon.com. I commend you for that. And we also have Ed Slott us, an expert on American IRA and Ed can be seen on PBS, because first I was special to be rich and ever, who was the No. 1 collection funds show on television people across the country. You now have a new, a new PBS special called to be rich for life. There are, of course, a book and a book to be rich for life – the growth and protect your money in turbulent times. And thank you very much for taking the time to join us today, Ed
Ed Slott. I am happy to be here
Bershok Beth: I think this is the first time the two, instead of Jim Roth IRA, his is the IRA. I think it’s the first time both of you have been together in a forum like this, right?
Jim Lange. Yes it is true
Ed Slott. It must be like a presidential debate or something
Jim Lange. I do not want the debate, but let me add a few words of introduction
Beth Bershok: A summit like
Ed Slott: A summit of the IRA
Jim Lange: Read Ed Slott is really essential information. I mean, I read Natalie Choate, Bob Keebler, Seymour Goldberg, Bruce Steinberg, Steve Leimberg Gary Lesser, others. But Ed is probably more popular than any of them and he, more than anyone else, weaves great stories, humor and relationships in the critical lessons and I think it’s great. The new package to be rich for life irahelp.com, his site is an excellent resource. But Ed, returning to their stories, because I think it’s a wonderful way to learn and to and history as well to remember, especially, going back six years, when I read the retirement saving time bomb. Before I ask you to recall this story, I will mention that Pittsburgh is a city of great baseball . In fact, if we lose more than half of our games this season we will set a new record for most consecutive losses by a major sports team ever.
Bershok Beth: I much like that, actually, I think that will happen
Ed Slott: I have no sympathy for you, I’m a fan of the Mets and may have lost many games because they no have not always existed, but how much better they lose
Bershok Beth: This dramatic
Jim Lange: Well, I we’ll enter that into a reality minute. However, in Pittsburgh, nearly 50 years, Bill Mazeroski homered in the ninth inning to win the World Series since the New York Yankees favorite, but, be remembered that home run, but what most people do remember is he was just a ball player and 0260 was really a great gardener and here is my question for you, Ed, because the story just sticks in my mind so clearly. Could you talk about Bill Buckner and lessons that our listeners can make Bill Buckner?
Ed Slott: Well, Bill Buckner, for baseball fans, is infamous, you know, the failure at the critical moment. But without going through all statistics, it turns out he was one of the greatest players to ever play baseball. But when he was late in the game and that’s why I used the analogy of the planning your retirement savings, which is what we keep that matters, the result at the end of the game is not the score at half time, if not you do in baseball entering the seventh round or eighth – is the way to end the game. So where Bill Mazeroski was even remotely likely, the player was Bill Buckner, Bill Mazeroski is in the Hall of Fame because at the end of the game came with the great success and, as you all know, in Pittsburgh, but I must say, many people across the country when he uses the story of Bill Mazeroski do not know that he is the only one who has never played a game World Series winners will be the seventh homerun. When I say all countries, people, real baseball fans say Oh, no, this is not true. Joe Carter did. Joe Carter is not just a little anecdotes from baseball, he was in the sixth Thurs Bill Mazeroski is still the only one to lose the World Series in the seventh game. So poor Bill Buckner had a fantastic race, over 2000 visits. In fact, There were over 500 visits to Joe DiMaggio. Happier people like Mickey Mantle and Ernie Banks and securities more and Fielding won, won the batting of the National League. But when it counts, and the error against the series “Put the world in 86, you know almost ran Boston. In fact last year for the first time brought in more than 20 years to throw the first pitch and I guess I forgave him because they won the World Series since. Bill Buckner will probably never be in the Hall of Fame, even though he had a career as a Hall of Fame. We look at the statistics of the population, with more than 70 visits % of the players already in the Hall of Fame.
Bershok Beth: Actually this is the first time I heard of Bill Bucker – here in this program.
Ed Slott: The point is that there was a great race, and similar retirement savings. You could have a great career, economics, construction and investment and have more and more. But if you hit or drop the ball like Bill Buckner was at the end of the game, distribution strategies, planning, your family will remember the same of you who remember Bill Buckner – he dropped the ball when it had exploded, even though 30 years ago has a right to everything and this is the big problem with retirement planning. People think of what I call the first half of the game from the accumulation of money, and you know that you do not really have much control over half of the match. One might think that investment, but not more, as we have seen, forces the more work you can not control, like Wall Street and all that. But the only thing you can control is to put money and hope for the best. Even with an investment advisor of his great knowledge that does not really have much control over how it grows, but can be applied and you can control the game server, which for me is the way to win the game, that’s what I call half to win the game in my new book to be rich for life. You can control because it is tax and that’s what people have to focus on now, you can control. You can not control the stock market, greed, fraud and all that. But you can control the mining tax code and make tax planning for the big end of the game when necessary and when Bill Mazeroski run success at home.
Bershok Beth: Well, I think many people are worried about it. I must interject here with this because I saw in your last newsletter Ed has a slogan for the economy of Today I love. You call this Yo-Yo économie.
Ed Slott: Yes, we are in a saving of Yo-Yo I call it. means’re AYO-YO on your own. Never before have people felt so helpless, even with financial advisors who now realize they were actually sellers, brokers selling stocks and bonds. I think Warren Buffet said it best. There had a saying: When the tide goes out, you’ll quickly discover that it’s a swimsuit. And that’s what is happening now, we see the curtain. Many of these people who call themselves financial wizards or gurus, brokers and banks and many of them really knew what they were doing. They sell what their company told them to sell. Have you lost your money, which has obligations that have to stop and it is one of the things I talk about in my book. How to find competent advisors, who are actually a real financial tax planning, distribution planning, where the score matters at the end of the match. Things you can control it.
Beth Bershok You know, knowing they would be today, Ed, we had a few listeners who sent us questions and we will reach a minute, but I know there was something that Jim wanted to ask first.
Jim Lange: Well, I was actually attending a professional seminar and met a guy named Bill Nelson, who sang his praise
Ed Slott. Ah, yes, Bill
Jim Lange: And he said the secret of One of the most important things in the planning of the IRA was to save time bomb retired and gave me the page, which I still have the old edition of the previous edition, it is marked and I have a new problem as well. But I use the old edition, because again highlights and markings, etc. If you remember, was not the case of Ralph and Sadie had 000,000 in an IRA and had a daughter named Ruby 40 years and had made some recommendations for Ralph and Sadie and I was wondering if you could tell our listeners what they would recommend Ralph and Sadie have 000,000 in an IRA and a girl named Ruby 40 years.
Ed Slott: Actually it’s funny you mention that because I brought this story and put on my new public television special stay rich for life – same name as the book and I understand what you and he said he worked in Pittsburgh.
Beth Bershok:. Yes, WQED
Ed Slott: So, in the second act of this show to tell this story, which may have changed its name. I do not think I used the names. But the point I was trying to do it again, fiscal management, planning, conduct, taking advantage of what I call gold nuggets in the tax code, most people do not. Most people will lose their retirement savings. When I say to save for retirement, I mean your 401 (k), 403 (b) its business plan, your IRA, because the money has not yet been taxed. So now you have to do something to make a proactive planning in advance, before, which I think is a huge tax increase to come. Look at the economy, after the rescue emergency – Who will save the United States? This will be the same people who did the right thing – money put into the 401 (k) and the IRA, but the whole world to this type of schedule that I just mentioned and called him with greater benefits in the tax code, and if you know that I do not sell insurance, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, annuities, but I think in the mobilization of the tax code – I am a tax consultant. The reason I said is that the biggest advantage right now is that life insurance, the tax exemption for life insurance. The reason I said that because when I tell people to think that life insurance should be sold or any thing, I’m not! I tell you to use it to leverage your money when you can use the tax code to pass tax money tax-free, which is a good deal. I would do it every day.
Bershok Beth: You know actually, we’ll come back in a second. We have to take a short break, it is time for money Lange: Where Smart Money Talks. Jim Lange and our very special Ed Slott guest today. The money time Lange. Where Smart Money Talks
Beth Bershok: Time Lange Money: Where Smart Money Talks. Bershok Beth and I have two, we have a great guest today, Ed Slott, an IRA expert in American and Jim Lange, of course. We were in the middle of a story that Jim Ed spoke and whether to continue with the idea of Ed there. ” br />
Jim Lange: Well, we spoke with Ralph and Sadie, 000 000 in an IRA and a girl named Ruby and 40 years, Ed was mentioned a little about some of the benefits of the tax code because that it is very concerned about future taxes and talking about life insurance.
Ed Slott: I’m too worried about the future tax! I think we’re all going to hit many more taxes, so we must do something to advance our money now tax-free accounts and the story was about a spouse is usually best to get the money free and clear – money completely free of taxes. In other words, nothing better than a life insurance policy. There are no required distributions and the children and grandchildren are generally better off with the IRA, because you can stretch or extend the lifetime distribution . So that was the point of the story instead of what many might think, well, I want my wife or husband to the IRA, you better have life insurance that will never be imposed – the or state tax revenue, and leave the IRA to their children tax-free goods, which can be done now even more since the tax exemption on capital increased to, 500,000. This opens up many more money if you have the quantity. You know, the less you have, the more it is important to protect what you have, even if you have a lot more than you can give, or should I say out of 500,000, 500,000 of IRA for children and grandchildren and tax free goods.
Jim Lange: Ed, let me ask you this question. So basically you’re saying that if the husband is the one , 000,000 in the IRA, you say to consider life insurance for the husband.
Ed Slott: Well, in the example he says that the husband had one, and 000,000 IRA usually when someone comes, probably the same with their customers, if someone came up with this scenario, the woman is the beneficiary, because that’s what everyone said in the IRA. I say that Change the daughter of the beneficiary, but then the woman will say, “Well, what do I live?” and this is where life insurance comes into play, but usually they end up doing is changing the beneficiary IRA back to a woman anyway, but the addition of the daughter as contingent beneficiary in this way the woman is in complete control. What do women really want, not so much of the IRA, which means financial security. She looks the IRA as financial security, but is not really a secure future when you do not know how that will be taxed when you need it most. When she reached her hand when she is more vulnerable and need more, taxes can eat up 50% to 60% thereof, depending on future tax rates and rates of inheritance tax. It is best that life insurance is a sure thing – you have free and clear and you can also get the IRA, if you want, but the name of the girl contingent that has the ability to refuse the inheritance, a Another advantage in the tax code, called Legal, where he could go back to the girl after the death anyway. I know it was a /> Ed Slott: That’s why I’ll try to get this story down. But the point is to see the leverage of money life insurance liabilities without. Even bother to take money from your IRA now, pay the lowest tax rate -. We are at very low rates now and take advantage of this life insurance
Jim Lange: Ed, by the way, you and I are largely on the same page many areas. I am a big fan of the resignation as you know, Lange plan beneficiaries cascade is essentially a succession plan established with exceptions, so I’m a little more comfortable naming the surviving spouse first and leave the decision of who gets what ..
Ed Slott: Yes, that’s what I wanted to do, which can have both. It is better with life insurance, as opposed to an IRA. She has no hope of life for both the IRA and life insurance eliminates the uncertainty of what future tax rates can be.
Beth Bershok: Basically the idea behind this is to save taxes, to save taxes at the end of y. ..
Ed Slott: For me, financial security is to get money free of taxes. The last thing you need in retirement is at hand when you need it most and the government 70% of it is the time you need to keep 100% of it.
Bershok Beth: Our client is Ed Slott and you’re ready for a question that was launched from a listener
Ed Slott. I am ready
Bershok Beth: Oh Jim said here is another question. We’ll let Jim do his first question, then move on to other issues.
Jim Lange: Ed well, I was also an advocate of combining IRA and life insurance and pension plans and have been for over 20 years. One of the things I do in my practice, which may be a little different and I thought I would ask for comments. I often was the second to die policies. In fact, I have the numbers and how it works better and I am the first to admit it. When running a number that works best for people in terms of total wealth for the whole family to do what you suggest, to ensure that the life of the husband, is that basically, women and Then the IRA have children and grandchildren. What I did and maybe think of it as conservative, his is more conservative, the mine may be a little different, because it could be a premium reduction is often used second to die or of life and survival will not pay the first death, but the second death, and they tend to use security policies so that there is no doubt if it’s a life situation that depends on investment results, etc., I wonder if you could comment on that, I know that’s not how you do it.
Ed Slott: I am all ways, in fact, depends on what is best for the customer. It depends on how much money might be needed in the first death. The problem with my situation, sometimes you never know who will die first as well. In the second death, of course, if you do not need the money, if they have enough other assets to live without life insurance, then, of course, the second to die, as it spreads <-! NextPage -> the risk of two lives if it depends on each case. But when there is a case in which you are concerned about the financial security of your spouse if the IRA owner, you know that you have a large IRA and has nothing to say, so I want it get some money is tax free as long as possible in the first death.
Jim Lange: I think it sounds good. So if you are interested in which both partners could be considered a traditional policy of the owner of the IRA and there is more than enough of both to the second to die. Sometimes I think that there is a certain budget and the gifts you want to allow some money for children, gifts as old newspapers, money for 529 plans and then a bit of money life insurance as well.
Ed Slott: If both have enough to live, then it is probably more of an advantage of one second to die policy. If neither spouse wonders if there will be money when the first dies.
Beth Bershok: Ed Slott, our guest today, U. S. experts of the IRA and Jim Lange Lange Time Money: Where Smart Money Talks. We have a few questions from listeners and we’ll be back with you in a minute. Money time Lange. Where Smart Money Talks
Beth Bershok: Speaking of money smarter, Lange Money Hour: Where Smart Money Talks. Jim Lange and a great guest today, U. S. IRA expert Ed Slott, author, and is a PBS television special called to be rich for life and if you want to check all your data is irahelp.com. The website of Ed, thank you irahelp.com and again, Ed, for joining us today.
Ed Slott. No problem, glad to be here
Bershok Beth: We have many questions listeners e-mail us knowing they were going to be on the show and I found a theme in these e- mails. Everyone seems to be completely confused about the suspension of RMD for 2009 and I guess, Ed, who is also using this as a strategy. I know that Jim was using it as a strategy to convert to Roth IRA. But here’s the question, and this comes from a retired dentist from Indiana. Your question is, is to move from distribution 2009, but you want to convert your IRA to a Roth IRA, and want to know if you miss the distribution is still allowed to do?
Ed Slott: Yes, provided it qualifies. In 2009, their income can not exceed 0000 which is the only restriction. However, a better strategy I use for some clients who are willing to do, but not the client is 70 years old who are normally required distribution. Now, not having to take them. Now on the surface, which looks like a good thing, but I say it is better to get money when you know what the tax rates are now, they are very very low – almost the lowest they were in the lives of most people. Therefore, it is best to take the money anyway, and if their income does not exceed 0000. Let’s say you convert to a Roth, you are eligible to convert to a Roth must be converted. Would not normally have the opportunity to convert to a Roth, because when you take the necessary distributions, distributions are not eligible to become a Roth, but now this year alone, since the distributions are truly voluntary and not mandatory , which can be converted to a Roth. Therefore, it is a real window of opportunity to convert to a Roth now.
Bershok Beth: Well, Jim, you want to play in all this? Because Jim has used this as a strategy
Jim Lange: Well, I agree with you 100% and why I am a big fan of Roth IRA conversions in 2009 for those who qualify, that will be the year lower taxes and lower tax bracket is likely to ever be in. So, let’s say 70 years or more, you have money in an IRA and used to say you have social security, pensions, interest, dividends – what you have. Normally, the minimum required distribution from an IRA will grow into a higher tax bracket. So if you had to do a Roth IRA conversion you would have to pay tax at the higher rate. Now you do not have to take a required minimum distribution, the Roth IRA can be cheaper than they ever will. I used to say to the conversion Roth IRA after retirement, but before the minimum distribution requirements when you are in a lower tax bracket. 2009 is now a very special year because we can become the lowest tax rate that can never be
Ed Slott: Yes, I agree with that. I do not think people think, you know there are many complaints about taxes all the time, but most people do not realize how much we really now. In my book, to be rich for life, if you are interested you can get it on my site irahelp.com. It’s my site, you can even ask questions, you can write questions if you listen now, you can write the questions directly on the main page of the website and will be answered by real estate experts. And if you go down, you will see an image of stay rich for life – the book we are talking about and if you click there will only be entitled to Amazon.com and is probably the best price for it. But the price you get it when it will be useful if you read it. Page 7 of this book, I give you a history of tax rates.
Jim Lange: It’s the page I’m currently
Bershok Beth: It is, it is literally there
Ed Slott.: It’s really something telling when you see the rates in the 70, 80 and 90. If you said that people now people now believe that tax rates are higher! Back in the year, I just want to isolate the baby boom years which were 1946 to 1964. The federal tax rate, which is the marginal rate for the richest of care, more than 90%, 9 0 if they are now to give his radio. You said 90? How can it be? What remains for me? Nothing! More than 90% each year of baby boomers, with the exception of 64 last year when he was only a meager 77%. Now the point I want to say is that these years are the years when baby boomers were born. They do not need a lot of people. Now they are on the other side of the fence in the collection. The baby boom first just start collecting Social Security last year 2008. They’ll be on top of all our economic and fiscal bailouts. The 80 million baby boomers will need strong government in one way or another, there will be a kind of dependence that will increase pressure on tax rates increase. So that’s my point, tax rates will increase and it is now time to act. Now is the time to do these Roth IRA, make money, even if it is not necessary. Influence of life insurance and get money from the tax collector now. I call it the purchase sales tax, because that’s what they are today.
Bershok Beth: I think it should be noted the change in the tax law of 2010, while speaking of Roth.